Causes a full lock up and the slide gets jammed back with no wiggle room at all. Better yet, dont do any this and just buy some Try pouring kroil down the other side of the barrel. Never have and have no intentions of either. The ball/bullet MUST be pushed back against whatever powder charge you get in the chamber! Why did this happened and is it common with glocks. . June 27, 2022 . and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid. Bullets with a large flat meplat (approaching full wadcutter style bullets) are absolutely devastating on targets they make large permanent wound channels and they penetrate much farther than expanding bullets. Personally, I would NEVER load a Sptizer bullet backwards in a brass casing. To put all this in perspective, if I knew there was an extremely high probably that a grizzly was going to attack me, I would want a rifle in .45-70 Government and I would shoot a hardcast lead bullet with a large flat meplat. Gel blocks are both expensive and require intensive logistics to maintain. (1% rather than 10%). Yeah, the ones I have are "Stingers" Look like nice bullets though, Also off topic, but the *******s at the shop sold me 4 different brands of ammo, one of them being super velocity (the type it says not to use in the instruction manual). I would just be very conserned about compressing my charge. I did the same with .357. At the minimum spent brass needs to be neck sized to enable re-chambering, the cartridge case has expanded after firing so closes down the chamber tolerances that is why it feels hard to close the bolt and if the chamber is dirty you are only going to jam the case in there. I like my hands way to much (This sounded far more innocuous in my head), to try that. Maybe the wrong caliber inserted into the chamber but backwards? That took some talent Never seen that one before.. bullet stuck in chamber backwards. If that doesn't do it, I doubt it's a bad bullet and you must likely have the recoil spring misaligned under the barrel. WOW, that's different. Research hardcast lead bullets with large flat meplats and you will understand. Once the first round went through the gel block how can you ever know if the the damage caused by the first round did not impact the damage caused by the second round???? With the bullet removed, I cleaned the bore and checked for damage where the bullet had been stuck. Fortunately, I caught him and corrected the problem before he had a chance to hurt himself. I was (am) fond of accuracy. can you explain how you got the cartridge out? 114K subscribers in the SigSauer community. Regardless, she managed to load the mag backwards. A critical marksmanship skill that is easy to overlook. Apologize if this has already been posted but this link offers several good fixes for this problem. Wow, that's crazy. He came back to the range with both and we implored him to only load and fire one at a time to reduce the risk of mistakes. 8. Nov 23, 2008 1,894 May 27, 2012 The wooden dowel is the way to go. The bullets had a slightly hollow base so you got something that approached a hollow point round. Its not the first time people have done dangerous things just because they wanted to confirm an internet rumor. Since the rifle was designed for use on Alaskas great bears, Johnson cut 720-grain (47 g) boat-tail .50 BMG bullets in half, seating the 450-grain (29 g) rear half upside down in the fireformed .50-caliber case. Either the case has to move, or the rim has to get torn off, or the extractor has to let go. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The theory there is that a liquid with minimal surface tension will conform to whatever shape is the most aerodynamic by the simple fact that it doesnt have the structural rigidity required to resist the most aerodynamic shape. Its bad ju-ju. If you shoot enough, and especially if you shoot handloads, odds are pretty darn good that you or someone you are shooting with will experience a stuck bullet. If they are different or over the SAAMI c.o.a.l. He didn't listen and somewhere loaded the G19 mag into the G23. It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees, Scopes, Sights, Rings, Mounts & Other Optics. . Maybe some curved needle nose pliers, a very gentle wiggle, a very gentle pull. Both rounds that stuck were reloads. I believe this also fits with the Dum-Dum bullet idea where they pulled FMJs on already loaded military rounds and cut the bases with Xs and then insterted them backwards to make a HP round for action in India for the British. Typically WC and SWC are used in handguns. Just enough. Only the foolhardy goes beyond. It chambered and fired, but did not extract. On the very off chance that the round detonates, you'll have a loud pop, some smoke, and a ruptured 9mm case, I don't think you'll be in much danger. This isn't your grandpa's muzzleloading system. I would not be surprised if there were barrel damage also, especially around the throat area. Better than using plain old FMJ. If the firing pin is slightly exposed or the primer is sitting high (and since the slide is locked up you can't tell) you could discharge the round and cause a great deal of damage to the firearm, nearby property, yourself and others. I'll give that a shot. Well, hes been my best friend for over 40 years, we went to kindergarten together, so that isnt happening. Press J to jump to the feed. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? are you able to see the round from the top of the slide (ejection port)? My first instinct would be to try to yank the bullet with needle nose pliers. Good thing, since I can't get enough of the spring rod visible to get a wrench on anyway. Pull the slide cover offremove firing pinthat will ensure when you pound it back, it will not detonate, Use a nylon or wooden dowel, tap it out with a hammer. Trim the case's! You are using an out of date browser. I really like my XD mod2, but this honestly makes me somewhat nervous about it. Mark the location. Now, place the chamber end of the barrel on a piece of hard wood. Danger or not, knowledge is power. Wow, you really dodged a bullet on that experince, (pun intended). This may have altered the performance on steel both backwards and forwards. Slide is hesitant to move back forward when released. Then youd have an unsupported (though swaged) lead core. An abrupt front surface (full wadcutter or backwards bullet) causes turbulence. "The fear of death follows from the fear of life. Random Thoughts About Police Militarization, It Should Have Been a Defensive Gun Use: London Beheading Edition, Liberty Ammunitions Innovative Personal Defense Rounds are Lighter, Go Faster, and Hit Harder. The bullet from a squib stuck in the barrel must never be cleared by subsequently attempting to fire a live or blank round into an obstructed barrel. As a mater of fact about the worst you could come up with. If you have to force it closed it will always be hard to open. I've had the occasional round stick before but have never had anything quite like this. It is wonderfully strong, yet there is virtually no possibility of damage to the bore. Mark Twain, A buddy I was shooting with one day loaded .380 in his CM9 mag and fired. The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The same procedure was followed from the breech end to locate the rear end of the obstruction and to make a second locating mark on the barrel. PS: The round is a Buffalo Bore 147g hardcast, if it matters to you. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. That way it cannot touch the primer. Just reach into the open chamber (finger tip is fine), push the bullet down, and slide it back into the mag as you would if you were loading it normally. After beating the gun apart, we found a buldged barrel. Sounds like an out of spec round or maybe a 9x18 instead of the 9x19 round. And wouldnt you know it: they are! I was then able to work the round out of the barrel with a screwdriver. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. Only when we get to 5:25 does Mr. Ammo Channel point out that its a really, really stupid idea; split casings and all. XD Mod.2 4" Service, 9mm. Thanks for the help. Posted at 09:02h . I wouldn't push anything against the primer though. You would need a bullet puller, and a bullet seating die, and some kind of a press, unless your just going to pound the bullet back in the case. If there is a malfunction you should, with proper care and consider. I thought it tumbled after it left the barrel. If you are going out into the woods and want to be ready for four-legged predators at close range, full wadcutters and hardcast lead bullets with large flat meplats are the only way to go. I've got the problem solved now guys, thanks for all the help!! I have no reason to feel that a wadcutter is unsafe! basically I just grab the back of the slide on the serrations then kinda karate chop the back of the grip/tang area with the web of my right hand. This burned far faster than charcoal, and allowed for the drastic reduction in sulfur content for comparable burn rate. Or an aluminum one. I personally like the CCI Minimags in the model 60.For me they shoot well. When its in the 1/2 open position you press the bolt release lever in front of the triggerguard to make the bolt slam foward.If this doesn't work,put a cleaning rod down the barrel and gently tap it out.Did you fire the gun without any rounds in it ?This is called dry firing.Not good for rimfires. Insert bullet only into chamber and hold it lightly against the rifling with a pencil. Always drive stuck bullets backwards toward breech. 7. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. what i usually do is remove the magazine, grasp the slide with your left hand (if you're right handed) pointing the gun at a safe direction. An upfront disclaimer might have been helpful for ADD-afflicted andyounger gunnies. I knew there was trouble when he brought the rifle into my shop because there was a piece of arc welding rod sticking out the barrel! Seen it first hand in an M9 about a month ago. I'm new to owning a rifle. Never shot tissue, rarely hit what I was aiming at, never tried it again. Thanks. He even draws a diagramwhat do you want? At the gun fires the bullet travels down the barrel, the gases that are created propels the slide backwards (blowback) and the extractor ( a hook of sorts) grabs the brass, pulling it out of the chamber and pivots it out of the slide (and gun) as it comes all the way back. The second round was able to chamber, but as it did, it pushed the expended brass down the barrel. Yes, a football is very aerodynamic. That is how to clear o How To Fix Pistol Jams (Semi Auto). Does anyone know anyway that I could try to get the slide free? When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. If I load with Xtreme RN bullets everything is fine no mater what. meaning, take a hack-saw and cut off the pointy part so the bullet would have a flat front with partially exposed lead. What would be the point of this even if it was safe. I wouldn't use a rod to bang it out. It may not display this or other websites correctly. An abrupt rear surface also causes turbulence. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. The classic case for me occurred years ago when a fellow brought a .22 rifle into my shop. Many years ago I heard of an accident that took place in a gunsmith shop. For large calibers, severely lodged bullets or stuck cases, additional drops may be required. Hey, hold my beer, tea, whatever, and watch this.. It should seep through. Of course that huge flat front surface means those bullets slow down way, WAY faster than Spitzer (pointed) bullets. #3. I was zeroing a .223 stevens this evening, Ultramaz remanufactured ammo, 55HP, and a case blew! With the safety on the it will slightly slide back (normal) but when the safety is off it will slide back twice as far and stop. With the mag out, can you rack the slide with your rear sight on a table with muzzle pointed safely down? You must log in or register to reply here. The gun gets stuck and they can't open it. The wrench/hammer is for when your spring rod gets set off-center. Hrm, Well I was using live rounds. An innovative way to carry your backup gun. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Screaming with rage and frothing at the mouth it stuck wildly with its heavy claws, but Tanar . (yes i reload). The bolt should close with no more than light pressure. What a few shotgun blasts between friends? It won't extract by normal means. Turn down the volume, obnoxious music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_N71iYZHd8. Wouldn't need to drill a hole in the center either. Consider the risk of using a gun that isn't feeding/firing correctly. Use of a pick or miniscrewdriver may release it to drop the barrel. Mar 4th 5th, 2023, Monday 3/6 8:00AM-3:00PM = HB 952 Testimony Signup, Monday 3/6 8:00AM-3:00PM = HB 704 Testimony Signup, Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section, Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses, View up to date on firearm-related events. I'm still baffled by it. It looked like the shells didn't get resized properly. .308 Bolt action rifle, shooting all day in a tactical type match, all of a sudden a very tight round gets stuck 95% of the way into the chamber and won't budge either way. There is a vast difference in trying different powders and different bullets, seating at different depths etc.,than turning bullets around, creating dangerous pressures, and splitting necks. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. When I was involved in cowboy action shooting I would generally see at least one stuck bullet at any match I attended. bullet stuck in chamber backwards. 2- Get a "Scotch-brite" pad and thoroughly scrub the inside of the receiver to remove any rough spots. Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership Discuss anti-gun legislation Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses It is first time I see ammo stuck in chamber backward.. Feb 8, 2013 #15 Bootknife Active Member. HK. Don't need a magic marker to see the land marks on the bullet. You must log in or register to reply here. A squib can be a danger to you and your firearm. - Quick Tips mannyCA 52.4K subscribers 58K views 4 years ago We demonstrate our version of removing a stuck bullet from your bore. Firearm's secure at home at the moment, so haven't tested Springfield's suggestion yet. No, being dirty isn't a problem for the XD. Made a mess of tissue. You are using an out of date browser. This spring I was out on a prairie dog expedition with a group of friends. In the worst case this will result in having an aluminum cleaning rod stuck in the barrel! Jun 6, 2018 #10 Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). Place it in firm contact with the stuck bullet. how do you think primers get pressed into the shell? More often than not, a single stuck bullet will seldom harm a bore. Thanks. I also read about someone loading backwards rifle round to produce subsonic loads. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. AMAX or VMAX bullets. No, a FMJ backwards is not as aerodynamic as a FMJ forwards. Only thing I am worried about is reliable feeding from 20-30 round magazines. Not only does energy rise exponentially with velocity, but so does drag. Sold a guy a Glock 19 and a few weeks later sold him a Glock 23. Had to pound on the bolt handle with a hammer and block of wood to get the bolt open. It wont go off by accident. Easy to feel when you close the bolt. Made a hell of a mess, and was incredibly unsafe. I'm able to move the silde about 10mm and that's it. Wasnt the 50 Alaskan originally a cut down 50BMG bullet stuck into a case backwards? Solano Verde Water District 9x18 is slightly wider diam. Same problem happened to another person just recently here on xdtalk. He thought he might have stuck a bullet in the barrel, so he went back home and tried unsuccessfully to remove the bullet. I will need to ream the chamber to allow flat nose bullets to be . If the case does not at least begin to come out, repeat the penetrating-oil dose, wait a day or two, and try again. russia and china vs nato war who would win. I check headspace on every reload because of this. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. 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