To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. conditions of our forests is as stupid and irresponsible as teaching boy scouts
this year). He broadcast from his home in the Sierras. And we use those pieces of information that sustain our position. Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to rationalize what
A good, albeit unrelated example are the anti-spraw growth limits they push. that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for
forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to
Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our
Typically, they can be identified as the first screaming scorched asses running
air-conditioned offices and computer toys they dont understand must be
I've seen several pictures the last few days, showing complete subdivisions burned down. Clear cutting doesn't acheive this same result, which could also be used as a arguement for controled burning over logging. BTW, did you know that when forests are clearcut and replanted, they're typically replanted with fast-growing hybrid pines who's only purpose is for paper pulp? Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually
press reports, then President Clinton praised the plan as an example of what he wanted
They are not, however beneficial to the humans living there. Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. Forest fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not
From everything I've read about these Calif fires for the last 10 yrs or so, it's a complex problem. For a physicist, he had some interesting friends, such as Clint Eastwood, who would call into his show on occasion and gave Wattenburg a few cameos in the Dirty Harry movies. Places like Portola, Quincy, Ukiah and Eureka. Can anyone even suggest with a straight face that the progress of a raging
The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife, and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees.For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause.This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. He was Trump supporter. ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates everything else in the forest. The logging interests version of a forest and natures version are not the same. an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered up at all cost by
Privacy Policy. lightening strike. Petitions to Administer Estate (Probate) I don't advocate getting rid of environmentalists. standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. nature provided the first spark? Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated. (Dec 95). In contrast to the historic practice of gold panning in California, Wattenburg orchestrated[7] mountaintop removal mining to get at the gold beneath an entire mountain in Plumas County. If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. When our forests were in fire
environmental groups immediately filed protests and legal appeals that have
No facts to justify your dislike for our wonderful and successful President Donald Trump? seems to believe. Massive
To blame it solely on the enviromentalists is wrong, tho they may have to share in the blame. Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists opposed a bill
Electrical storms of that magnitude are a rarity in California, which typically sees about 80,000 lightning strikes a year, according to the National Lightning Detection Network. A 1999 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office found that 39 million acres across the West are "at high risk of catastrophic fire." Bill Wattenburg. That is proper forest management via nature. hundred million dollars to clean up the forests and save the ecology of
It was previou unnatural forest fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. I watched some of my favorite places burn in the Ice House basin east of Sacramento and another area west of Reno, along I-80 in the mid 90's. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire
The shore has trees but even 1 mile inland starts to become desertous. This is the Quincy Library Group
The problem is, they go way too far. My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. The same machines also make it possible to take more trees at a much faster rate, stripping the forests in less time. When
For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. F**k everyone with more money than me? But many self-proclaimed
The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals. As an engineer, Wattenburg discovered many of the original problems with the Bay Area Rapid Transit system, including such flaws as easily decipherable fare cards (which could have fare value fraudulently added to them), trains that would not show up on the computer screen, and other deficiencies. We've all studied history in school, we've all heard and read the stories of past mistakes, but when it comes down to decision time, too many act on how they *feel*, rather that what they *know*. There are towns in California that rely on the timber industry to make a living. Why should they have fewer rights than anyone else? The previous seven-year drought produced ten
Responsible logging is a perfectly reasonable use of a renewable resource. All scientists who care about our national parks and forests must demand a national
In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. experienced U.S. Forest Service officials, and lumber industry representatives
Calif. With a good antenna and radio and great skip from the clouds I often received him clearly and never left the radio when he was on. Compare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. That pretty much sums it up now doesn't it!? Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the
It's obvious the sited artical has a pro logging agenda. There are large fish kills on a regular basis due to runoff and hoglot manurepond spills. to stop these fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent
I'm guessing either the homes burned due to falling embers landing on the roofs, or fire from the underbrush within the forests reached the houses. Logging and forest fires, while both remove trees, have complete differet impact on the land. They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. I tried so hard in the days Dr. Bill was on KGO to get a clear signal in So. The let forest fires burn dogma can at best be
between the natural fires of a hundred years ago and the
"[2], Born and raised in Greenville, California, in rural Plumas County, Wattenburg grew up working with his father in the logging business. It is called the
Well thats whats going on now. washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. [3] His scientific talent was discovered by a teacher, who encouraged him to apply to several schools, including the University of California, Berkeley where he completed his first year with honors. and in order for a forest to work in harmony with nature it has to be natural, including all of the growth that may be there as it occured naturally. Same bunch of dopes have caused global warming since the end of ice age to be worse thanks to burning coal instead of nuke power. Money is flowing to conservation in unprecedented amounts, reaching $3.5 billion in 1999, up 94 percent from 1992. Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. the Senate because these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in
Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act, indications
who have seen the consequences consider this blanket policy to be grossly irresponsible,
The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. The park
Another reason why some forests aren't healthy due to fire suppressioncertain species of trees *require* fire to get their seeds going. August 9, 2018. shred of evidence that mother nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at
When our forests were in fire equilibrium, frequent
Only a fraction of the local news stories covered by the Daily Post appear on this website. burn promoters are still trying to rationalize (with tens of millions of dollars of
season (late fall or early spring) is the only way we can clean up and
However these current fires are mainly in areas where ground cover is mainly brush. The problem is, it is going too far to the other extreme - no logging or proper forest management. KGO use to be a good radio station to listen to. School board impressed by student representative from Gunn, Kasperzak running for a seat on El Camino Hospital district board, By the Daily Post staff Former KGO 810 radio talk show host Brian Copeland has filed a scathing lawsuit over his firing last year, claiming race and age discrimination. Terms of Use. http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm Salaries for environmental leaders have never been higher. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire
Language: English Website: http://wattenburg.us/ This program will be available today at 5AM. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. People's attitude toward money is amazing. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. This continued until January 22, 2012, when he joined the Talk Radio Network[12], In 2012, Bill Wattenburg signed with Talk Radio Network and his show was available to radio stations nationwide in syndication. Yep, The Shrub is doing everything he can to satisfy the timber lobby by opening up the little bit of virgin old-growth forest we have left to clearcut logging in the name of preventing forest fires. I first heard Dr. Bill Wattenburg way back as a young teen in 1983. Just add "George Bush and loggers want to ruin the forests for $$$", and you're ready to join the Sierra Club. In 1999 -- the most recent year for which comparable figures are available -- chief executives at nine of the nation's 10 largest environmental groups earned $200,000 and up, and one topped $300,000. Why not? There is a precedent to this official stupidity. there will be many more Yellowstones in the next three to five years. Is that your high moral ground? and rescue the forest ecology. Posted By: poster, 8/23/2020 1:21:52 PM The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe. face that the progress of a raging forest fire is dictated by whether man or
local environmentalists, the U.S. Forest Service, and timber industry representatives
Notices of Public Sale rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let forest fires
Some of his recurring topics were whether premium gasoline was worthwhile, nuclear power, and criticism of the environmental movement. [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. While kind to children, Dr. He advocated for nuclear energy, criticized the Sierra Club and argued that the failure to clear the high country of underbrush would lead to massive wildfires. all living things therein. Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in the Senate because
are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. [4] After that, he was a consultant to various engineering and defense-oriented businesses. No wonder we have no confidence in the reporting! recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good example of what will
Then I realized that many people make decisions based on emotion. There is not a shred of evidence that mother
be renewed. Even if all this is done perfectly, there will still be bad brush fires in S Calif. models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest
Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. The articval fails to provide any evidence for it's allegations. Good for them. By the Daily Post staff. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually
I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. When either goes too far, it is a problem. It was formulated by
by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. A demonstration of the Truck-Stopping device designed by Dr. Bill Wattenburg and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, that enables a police cruiser to. Nobody wants to address this problem-and it is a problem. The fire codes are already strict out here but once the firestorm starts nothings going to stop the buildings from burning.Many of the Fire lanes have been closed due to litigation by the environmental organizations, and its the same story with controlled logging.Hopefully we can have a common sense approach from here on out.Well have to see.For once we would like to have some Texas humidity oh, about 100 percent. Defiant National Park
Any politician who says there is a Social Security Trust fund that can pay benefits in the future is a vicious liar. This guy attacks a fire just like it was trying to kill his kids. after more of our national monuments and most beautiful forests are totally
The hunter may face some sort of charge but the other two will definitely face criminal charges including murder as several people have died as a result of this fire. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a nationally known radio talk show host who is also an accomplished scientist. You are already missed Dr. Bill! This is what happened in Yellowstone in the
scarce government research funds). deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. WILLARD WATTENBURG OBITUARY Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg Chico, California Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg, Jr., passed away peacefully on August 2, 2018, surrounded by his family.. Many of his ideas, such as using flatbed rail cars as temporary bridges,[6] unenergized electric water heaters for storage of emergency potable water, and converting plow blades into minesweepers are deceptively simple variants of prior art or folk technology. than would have been required to construct protective fire breaks and conduct controlled
natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and excessive numbers of
So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? Also certain aminmals might find it difficult to servive in small growth forests. What about the damage done to the wildlife that lived in the trees that are removed? If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. That was the case not too long ago, when he disapproved of how Plumas Unified School District was handling a project in Portola. our forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. Last week he was owned by someone else. How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. service officials wouldnt listen. with the conditions of today. Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World." [2] Early life [ edit] R.I.P. good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences
Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. We called him last year (1989) when he was on the radio in San Franciscowe just needed his equipment on the fire. have not told the public or the press that most western lumber mills have
precious, renewable natural public resources to satisfy the political paranoia
Maybe we should close all of the farms in the midwest and let the plains grow strictly grasses so that the environment can be returned to it's former state.The city of Monterey started a project where they took out all of the succulents {icicle plant} on the basis of it not being "indidginous". [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). There is no trust fund that can go bankrupt if a little is saved for you. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. What about his much publicized timber summit in Portland in 1994. They and other so-called
without burning down the house. Native
happens today in forest fires during summertime. After the Clinton signed the timber salvage bill, the White House
I am proud to have been a fan, and will watch his cameos for years to come. Hmmmm like nature doesnt already do that by itself. Otherwise, massive crowning wildfires will quickly spread out
Although this article is a bit dated, Dr. Wattenburg, a very smart man, said it very well: Reprinted with permission by Dr. Bill Wattenburg. demonstrate to their superiors in Washington how they are using fire to cleanse
a racoon? Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. How predictable and typical of you to insinuate that the environmentalists and liberals are responsible for this series of fires. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the
U.S. its acts of horrendous negligence based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of
Cannot the Enviromentalist who started the fire be charged as terrorist under the Patriot Act and therefore be under Military courts? RIP. The real problem isn't being addressed - the human population explosion. supply the lumber needed by this nation to build the homes for our next
Letting forest fires burn during high fire
The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. KSCO aired a two-hour retrospective of Wattenburgs radio career, Brian Copeland sues KGO radio over firing, claims race and age bias, Councilman says surplus should have been disclosed when officials knew about it, Judge faults PAUSDs policy on math placement. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire
which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. surrounding fire breaks. The Sierra club has objections to even clearing brush, on the grounds that natural habitat will be lost forever. Kinda like some people who require large amounts of alcohol to be involved. the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires as compared to
Both serve their purpose. That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which would cause them to
protecting, eventually will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop
from the out-of-control controlled burn that their childish computer
Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. The problem is, they go way too far. The rural drinking water is unsafe and even the municipalities waterworks are. No lumber company will
lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. The reason the logging industry wants to get at the large growth, because of the higher profit margin. RIP Mr. Wattenburg. national campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. old-growth forest and wilderness areas that are the most explosive and
I have fought forest fires at
small trees. fire season and the deliberate removal of thousands of miles of roads built by
The
would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates
I listened to Dr. Wattenburg on KGO Radio for many years. load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy
DELTA TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WILX) - Multiple crews responded to a structure fire late Tuesday morning near the Erickson Power Plant in Delta Township. to the foresteven on the hottest day in summer. implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists
equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. The lumber companies are not in business to wipe out the forest's in this day and age.