More info. This transcript is intended to be used for criticism, comment, and research purposes. I think she feels she's in direct competition with Buffy. Apr 21, 2022. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. At Harvard, 46.3% of recruited athletes in the class of 2022 come from families with household incomes of $250,000+, compared with 1/3 of the class as a whole. YesI was that sad :-) and in those there were certain facts that don't appearin Buffy, 1. if you stabbed a vampire with a stake in the heart you would have toleave it there as removing it would resurrect the vampire2. The fleur-de-lis bracelet that Lindsey wears throughout his time on the show is actually a bracelet that Christian Kane wears to remind him of his mother who is from New Orleans. However as his character grew in complexity, they started to appreciate his role in the series and said they were sad to see him leave. Beating him down with his bare hands while apologizing for the fact Darla didn't love him and that he made the right choices, Angel used the sledgehammer to smash Lindsey's prosthetic hand, noting that Lindsey should be grateful he recently had an epiphany, as Angel could have easily destroyed Lindsey's remaining real hand instead. After figuring out that his hand wasn't evil but rather suicidal, Lindsey pulled the plug on his friend and destroyed the facility, while saving those that could still be saved. The thing is would people have cared that Buffy and Riley were being drivenapart? Cookie Notice ", Another fan said: "Always loved Riley (re-watching Buffy just now) and it turns out the actor is as sincere and lovable as the character he played. Or that > > lets face it. Walsh retreats to the labs of Project 314, where she plots how to use Adam to defeat Buffy. When he did, Lindsay discovered the man slaughter was a hoax to get Darla to Angel and hopefully take his soul. Fearing that the hand is evil, Lindsey went to Caritas and sang for the Host, revealing that he used to be a regular customer and musician at Caritas until he lost his hand. 2. Werewolves and silver bullets could be another false thing. Now a Giles/Maggie struggleover Buffy's soul could have been fascinating but a Buffy/Maggie struggleover Riley? The only Buffy depatures that really phased me were Robia LaMorte, SethGreen, and Kristine Sutherland. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. reasons and the Big Bad arc had to be redesigned around Adam. When he tried to kill the aspiring actress Cordelia Chase, Angel attacked Russell at his manor to save her. The two wrote much of The Sound of Music. Apparently Adam was> > originally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay Crouse wanted out> > of her contract they had to scramble to find a new Big Bad. The three hired then-renegade Slayer Faith to assassinate him, promising to free her from her police charges and a doubled amount of payment. I've never understood the logic of shifting the dilemma to anewly introduced third party. Walsh was basically working on something that was inhuman, which in turn could be explained by saying that Adam was born out of the dark part of Walsh's soul/mind. > In article , Tim McGaughy> wrote:>>in article 130620022021411075%dsa@synapse.net, Don Sample at>>dsa@synapse.net wrote on 6/13/02 7:24 PM:>>> We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what>>> they were made of.>>>>And why would he make his own bullets, then?>>>>> And even if they were silver, maybe he just had a Lone Ranger complex.>>>>Or perhaps, just perhaps, he knew about the legends that werewolves can>>only be killed by a silver bullet.> > That doesn't mean that the legends are true. Adam> > was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. I don't want to sound like a jerk or attack ME and Joss or anything but is it standard practice to let actors with contracts just walk anytime they feel like it? His departure really changed the direction of the series and Idoubt it would have been Oz who'd have died. Lindsay Crouse is Indian by birth. (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a Usenet posting)-- ************************************************************************ Keith F. Goodnight, Anime Fan |"Pacifism only works ** Keeper of Annapuma's Script Crypt |if everybody feels the ** http://gsoft.smu.edu/ScriptCrypt/crypt.html|same." Marc Blucas: The actor played Riley Finn in Buffy, Marc Blucas: The actor played Buffy's boyfriend. I was really creeped out when he reanimated the corpses of Walsh and the other doctor. Lindsey was one of six children, two of whom died of the flu. I figured it was just her and her grad students, capturing vampires and locking them up in the basements of the university, performing experiments that they couldn't perform on humans. Willow was well along the path to spell casting before she met Tara. The actor left to go shoot the movie Knockaround Guys and by the time he was able to return, the show had already changed so radically that there wasn't a place for him anymore. Clements.[14]. We thought it would create> > some Shakespearean jealousy, and. However, he did return for an episode in the sixth season, where he returned and revealed he had married someone else. Crouse's film career began in 1976, with small roles in television and theatrical movies. Unknown to many in the Initiative, Walsh is also involved in Project 314, a secret program within the Initiative that is creating a hybrid demon-humanoid-mechanoid (demonoid) known as Adam. That she doesn't want to live in a world of babies. Oh my god, how lame is that?-------------------------------------------------------------------------, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, From the 29 January 2002 online edition of Entertainment Weekly, Marti, On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:16:49 -0400, Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790\) <, I had thought there'd be more Walsh in S4Too bad, LC missed a real chance to. Tara's death didn't even phase me. I couldn't let that slide.Lindsey McDonald, Two years later, Lindsey finally returned to Los Angeles, when he learned that Angel has taken over the Los Angeles division of Wolfram & Hart. Joss has said that Lindsay Crouse was difficult to work with, which led him to killing her off/reducing her role sooner. Certainly Tara's role would have been quite different,> > or maybe there wouldn't have been a Tara at all. However, I just listened to her interview at the Buffering podcast and nothing of that sort came up. [1], After saving the three children, Lindsey returned to Holland, returning the disks and admitting to what he did. I remember when I was a kid, I read a lot of vampire comics. Her interview in The Watcher's Guide, vol. Willow was headed down that path anyway and Tara was a fellow traveller. "You have to keep the poetry very, very active, which is pretty easy with Dickinson. Wasn't Lindsay Course playing judges in the Law & Order franchise was that part of the reason why she got killed off in Buffy? Great actresses like Glenn Close and Susan Sarandonthere's nothing written for anyone over a certain age. Actor Blucas simply left the series as his character was written out in the year 2000. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a> > motherly type to Riley. However, his hew hand began to act up, writing "kill" whenever Lindsey didn't concentrate. But most of the changes [throughout> > the series] have had to do with> > > actors coming and going. Is it true that Maggie Walsh was the original planned season 4 Big Bad? It was> Maggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy in> front of everyone at the Initiative. "Carmikl" wrote in message. And why would he make his own bullets, then? Lindsay> > Crouse was signed for the whole season.> >. A flunky?! That was what irked me at first about Tara. I still don'tthink he was; he was a fellow victim and should never have been playedas a big bad. Hoping that his performance would pick up again with the return of his hand, Lindsey's superiors arranged for him to receive a mystical transplant. If this or other postsmade through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email ab@newsone.net. I like her caustic nature, because she's not a mean person. [2], Lorne set him and Angel on the path that would end with the two working together to discover a Wolfram & Hart facility that specialized in unwilling transplant donors. [9], They learned that Angel had nothing and the footage consisted of nothing but Cordelia and Wesley messing around; it not only embarrassed them when they acted suspiciously to stop the footage being shown, but it allowed the demon to take the money and return it to Anne. After reading an intriguiging book about vampire legends, it seems to me (the book didn't draw this conclusion, it's my own stab in the hear-- er, dark) that pretty much the entire modern picture of the vampire as played in Hollywood and Gothic fiction comes from Bram Stoker's "Dracula", and Stoker actually made up most of it on his own. Among them was the donor of Lindsey's hand, an old friend of his from his mailroom days. Ooh, didn't know that. On a mission of redemption.I help the hopeless. I've seen other published interviews that say Lindsay Crouse was disappointed to learn her character was destind to die halfway through the season-- i.e. Crouse's essay has now racked up more than 3 million page views. . Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a, > > motherly type to Riley. That was also the episode where Willow and her mother, Sheila, have an argument about Willow's involvement with the occult. lets face it. Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver bullets We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what theywere made of. Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. Attempting to finish off Project 314, begun by Walsh, Adam has his workers manufacturing more creatures like himself; part demon, human, and machine combined. The Initiative project is shut down permanently. [9], After Angel violently burnt Darla and Drusilla, Lindsay, still infatuated with Darla, let her recuperate at his apartment. Whedon discussed with Nicholas Brendon and Sarah Michelle Gellar the idea of Buffy and Xander ending up together at the end of the final season, which the actors reportedly agreed. In 1999, he worked with vampiric businessman Russell Winters, a client that because of Lindsey's and his firm's services, could feed on young women without alerting attention. I know in a lot of the *old* werewolf stories, youdidn't need silver to kill one, but after all these bleedin' movies got theissue confused, if *I* were hunting one, I don't think I'd gamble on whetherthey were wrong! Two men enter, one man leaves!" Lindsay Ann Crouse is an American actress. [5], Buffy writer David Fury said in an interview, "I don't think Joss had envisioned Maggie Walsh as being entirely villainous. Vampires were more primeval and didn't get emotionally involved withpeople or other vampires for that matter, There are more differences but I have forgotten the rest :-). Buffy: Why does Sarah Michelle Gellar not want to return for reboot? Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. "It's always hard to be directed by someone who's close to you," Crouse says. Crouse is a Buddhist. Lahr also writes that Mamet got his first screenwriting assignment through Crouse. The. Failing in that, he gave information about Angel to police officer Kate Lockley, whose father had been recently killed by vampires, putting her in a vendetta against Angel. Sleeper--'It's a library; only the stupid and the evil are afraid of those.' Adamwas a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. [2] The Watcher's Guide is indeed one of the published interviews I was citing about Crouse's departure and Walsh's fate. "This is a matter of opinion--I disagree. It was> > Maggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy in> > front of everyone at the Initiative. As Crouse has said: "In our family, the work ethic was held up as some kind of byword At any hour, somebody's typewriter was going."[5]. Buffy Main Cast. ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. I think she'd like to fashion the world in her image, but Buffy puts a wrench in the works". DON'T MISSBuffy: Do Spike and Buffy really love each other? There were indications that the Initiative existed from the first episode. The Initiative project is shut down permanently. Her other films include Slap Shot (1977), Between the Lines (1977), The Verdict (1982), Prefontaine (1997), and The Insider (1999). But just as he said this, Angel entered the conference they were having where Lindsay introduce him to Wolfram & Hart and telling him that Angel could not touch Winters. > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a> Usenet posting). After graduating from the Chapin School in 1966[6] Older ones could control rodents7. bah. She's not a mean person, she's just a straight-out scientist. When Faith made the deal known to him, Angel broke into Lindsey's though was quickly caught out when Lindsey walked in. She is also a Grammy Award nominee. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be amotherly type to Riley. Smart guy! Re-writes and character alterations happen all the time in T.V., but her direction shifts so radically so fast that it's always struck me as odd. His relationship with Buffy also hit the rocks after he realised she could not love him in the way he wanted, as she was scared of emotional vulnerability. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Crouse has also guest-starred on Alias, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Columbo, Criminal Minds, Law & Order, ER, Millennium, and NYPD Blue. In recent years, Crouse has concentrated on the theater. [17] She and Mamet divorced in 1990. Or it could be that the Watcher's Guide is a fluff piece and that's really how it happened. More recently, in season four, > > > Maggie (Lindsay Crouse was going to be much more of a mother figure> > for Riley, introducing him to> > > another girl to lure him away from Buffy. She's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. That doesn't mean that the legends are true. Career Crouse made her Broadway debut in the 1972 revival of Much Ado About Nothing and appeared in her first film in 1976 in All the President's Men. I was seven when they took the house, just came right in and took it.Lindsey McDonald, Born into a poor and dysfunctional family in the south-central United States, Lindsey worked hard to overcome his upbringing. Or just making sure. Crouse was born in New York City, the daughter of Anna (ne Erskine)[1] and Russel Crouse, a playwright. "[18], Lindsey destroyed the Sahrvin Clan with Lorne's assistance as planned. Lindsey displayed the new abilities he had learned on his journeys, enabling him to keep up with Angel in a physical confrontation. Hmm interesting hope someone has info on this? [19], You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. [citation needed] She received her acting training at HB Studio[7] in New York City. Blucas, now 48, joined the cast of Buffy in 1999 and this was his first major TV role, with the show acting as a springboard to a long-running TV and film career. "[2], Crouse has explained how her character was initially explained to her, "Joss tried to explain to me who this character was. I doubt Oz would die from a bullet IMHO, unless he was shot in the head orsomething > > > That might have been the net result, but you would have to admit the> road travel to get to that point would have been much different. Meanwhile, he infiltrated Wolfram & Hart. Lindsay Ann Crouse is an American actress. Before the Initiative showed up I had assumed that Maggie had discovered the existance of vampires and was using them as guinea pigs for various psych experiments. Angel then hurled Winters out of the window of the tall building they were in, into the sunlight where he was burnt to dust. The series stars Sarah Michelle Gellar as the title character, and she ended up forming a relationship with . Lindsay Crouse is an actress who portrayed Maggie Walsh on the Buffy the Vampire Slayer television series. I loved Eliza Dushku, but she got a greatending on Angel so I don't mind her absence. On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:56:21 -0400, Timothy A. McDaniel wrote: Thoght ASH was supposed to be in the spin-off "Ripper". An interesting thing about Joss is he's not very diplomatic, I like that about him. At first he enjoyed his new privileges, able to play his guitar again. I'm sure she admires Dr. Frankenstein - or Einstein. Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? Riley later found out his boss had implanted a behaviour modifier into him after he joined the initiative, and it caused him to experience strange feelings. On more than one occasion, he joined forces with the Angel Investigations team and helped them stop some of Wolfram & Hart's particularly amoral agendas and operations, such as their plan to assassinate three children[1] or their mystical transplant operation. He has also previously starred in Necessary Roughness and Underground, and fans may be interested to hear he used to be a college basketball player. If you believe that then how do you reconcile Mr Whedon's comments that he does not plan a series more than one season in advance? >> If Seth Green handn't left, it would have been him lying dead on the, Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, jlp@aol.comnospam wrote in, Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, "Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790, > > in season four, Maggie (Lindsay Crouse was going to be much more of a, >> We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what, Did anyone else notice that Cain was the same guy as Sahrjon on Angel. "A Master in the Art of the Con. Vampires could not set foot in a church or look upon a holy relic6. [18] Their marriage produced two daughters, Willa and Zosia Mamet. You must log in or register to reply here. Cameras installed in Riley's room allow her to spy on Buffy and Riley while they have sex, and later to hear Buffy ask Riley about the 314 Project. Buffy Phenomenon A New Man (4.12) all too well - persaphones - The Sound of Music - Rodgers . Find where to watch Lindsay Crouse's latest movies and tv shows . Adam may be ridiculous, but is also a fun and fitting Big Bad. I liked Adam as a Big Bad though, because as well as being scary to look at it and wicked strong, it wasn't like he was actually Evil; he was just the creation of someone else's mind. Fictional character from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, List of Buffyverse villains and supernatural beings, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maggie_Walsh&oldid=1138757945, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles using Infobox character with multiple unlabeled fields, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 11 February 2023, at 12:27. [2], In a final confrontation between Angel and Lindsey, the two buried the hatchet, and Lindsey warned him of the games Wolfram & Hart was trying to play. Sumati Marut, Cindy Lee, Rick Blue, Lindsay Crouse", "Actress brings Buddhist retreat to Windhover. But to be honest, i think her story played out the way it should have been. Nike and Pregnancy: Your Questions, Answered. But Crouse made the character far too cold for fans to get into. Crouse was born in New York City, the daughter of Anna (ne Erskine) and Russel Crouse, a playwright. [1], He then aided in the resurrection of Angel's old lover, Darla by taking over chanting during the ritual to bring her back when the demon Vocah; who was originally performing the ritual; was distracted when Angel attacked him. [2], The Senior Partners gave that Eurotrash vampire everything I've worked for. She was born in New York City on 1948-05-12. I see that you're either the one with the power or you're powerless.Lindsey McDonald, Lindsey McDonald was a lawyer at Wolfram & Hart and both an enemy and ally of Angel Investigations. Or perhaps, just perhaps, he knew about the legends that werewolves can onlybe killed by a silver bullet. Wesley, unhappy with being forced to serve the Partners, shot those possibilities down, saying the presence of either alongside Angel would not help the Senior Partners get what they wanted, as the vampire would at worst ignore them and kill them at best. The WB/YouTube. While it is true that the affinity began as a result of a common interest in magic, Willow was always portrayed as the more dominant partner. The two agreed to fight the upcoming battle together and, at the end, resolve their differences, maybe even allowing Lindsey to take a powerful position at Wolfram & Hart as "the devil [they knew]. [1] Despite being one of the brightest of Wolfram & Hart, Lindsey secretly harbored a great deal of distrust for the organization and his colleagues, particularly Lilah. Also, a rather different story since the focuswould have been on that personal aspect as well as thepolitical/military one. Andaside from that, I dunno. In fact, while, under the assumption that she'd left the show early, I used to think that that reanimated corpse prof Walsh (in Primeval) was just an extra in prosthetics, it turns out that it was actually herself (Crouse) coming back to the show as planned all along. This then forced Lindsey to use an artificial hand from then on. [citationneeded], Angel is given the amulet which Spike eventually uses to destroy the Hellmouth in Sunnydale. She> said the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out of> their hats at the last minute. "To join the Clueless Club, send a followup to this message quoting everythingup to and including this sig!" In the search, it was discovered that Lee had consulted with an enemy law firm, and was then executed right next to Lindsey, his blood spraying on his face. If I recall, was not one of Sunday's minions hit by a> taser by a then unknown assailant? Sunnydale in further episodes before it was all revealed to us.-- Be seeing you,Growltiger, > > > > Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. the middle of season 7 I wouldn't mind that one bit. Since leaving Buffy, he went on to star in Knight & Day, Operation Christmas and Underground. During the ensuing battle, Lindsey attempted to burn a scroll that Angel needed to save Cordelia. They were thinking in terms of family,so Adam as "brother" probably seemed a better option. Afterward, he mails it to Angel at Wolfram & Hart. Lindsay Crouse had more fun playing a zombie than playing Prof. Walsh. ", Angel Investigations and Team Angel allies, Angel Investigations and Team Angel enemies, Lindsey is the only character besides Angel himself to appear in the first (", Though Christian Kane is a guitar player as well as a singer, it is his. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a> motherly type to Riley. Privacy Policy. After a relationship with Robert Duvall,[15] Crouse married playwright David Mamet in 1977. [citationneeded], Though rivals at heart, Lindsey and Lilah were also forced to also work together. the exact opposite of this paragraph. She really would like to fashion the world in her image. From what I've heard it was between Crouse's agent and ME; specifically money $$$. I don't know but I don't think Maggie Walsh would have been scary enough as the Big Bad on her own. Learning that Angel planned to expose the truth, they hired an old demon enemy of his to kill him. 1 Second Lead, Breaks for Starlight", "Actress brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport. He noted that, while Angel was sidetracked at Wolfram & Hart, the apocalypse was already underway, and Angel and his team were becoming more corrupt by the day. Meet Lindsay Crouse. Sunnydale in further> episodes before it was all revealed to us. This may include adverts from us and 3rd parties based on our understanding. Not according to Joss. [15] Although the "mind numbing" visions that Lindsey reported were non-existent, the events described were real.